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Scary thoughts about Venezuela

2/2/2019

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Image: Simon Bolivar Statue in Washington DC


​Scary thoughts about Venezuela

Bolivarian freedom from Spain to domination by America with help from Canada. And quite possibly a stepping stone to war with Russia and China.

Washington doesn't mind a reminder in its backyard that Venezuela is Bolivarian (see image above). Freedom from Spain is great, but freedom from US interference will not be tolerated.

Canada, in the person of Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland is doing its part to see that democracy rules the roost in Venezuela, even though being ruled by democracy is a logical fallacy.

​Globe&Mail: Freeland spoke to Venezuelan opposition leader two weeks before he declared himself interim president, source says
  • The Canadian embassy was closed Thursday over security concerns after Canada’s recognition of Mr. Guaido, a virtually unknown politician until he became opposition leader on Jan. 5.​

At least one notable Canadian workers' union thinks that having "a self-declared leader" is undemocratic:

CUPE Statement on the situation in Venezuela
  • The Canadian government was one of the first governments in the world to declare support for Juan Guaidó. In doing so, they have chosen to side with a self-declared leader over President Nicolás Maduro, who was duly elected by the people of Venezuela. They have also chosen to side with Donald Trump and US foreign policy.

About CUPE:
  • There are over 680,000 CUPE members in Canada, and that number is growing. Most of our members work in the public service. We have members working in municipalities, education, health care, social services, airlines, communications, and more.

Put that whole bunch out on the street in support of Maduro and Chavez's Bolivarian dream for Venezuela, and see how free and democratic Canada really is.

The Canadian Union of Postal Workers - CUPW - has so far not taken a position on the Venezuelan coup. But, to its credit, it did support one of its employees who took part in the 2018 Freedom Flotilla on behalf of Palestinians.

Meanwhile, Canada's government is officially "deeply concerned by the rapidly deteriorating political and economic crisis in Venezuela and reaffirms its commitment to the promotion and protection of democracy and human rights".

One might think that an election might be a good way to protect human rights, but our government favours a coup instead. That should tell us something about the future of our own "democracy".

Canada's foreign minister will be hosting "The Lima Group" on Feb. 4 who will discuss (be instructed on?) supporting "the restoration of democracy in Venezuela".

That in no way would include the possibility of reinstating the duly-elected Maduro, so it's pretty much an outright misrepresentation of the group's stated intentions to restore democracy.

The Lima Group consists of:
Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Costa Rica, Chile, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Mexico, Panama, Paraguay and Peru

Notice that The Lima Group does not include the ALBA states which are, in order of joining: Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Dominica, Ecuador, Antigua and Barbuda, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Saint Lucia, Grenada and the Federation of Saint Kitts and Nevis.

(Barbuda is in deep trouble at the moment as a result of a hurricane last year and the vultures that instantly swooped in: ‘Land grab’ on hurricane-hit Barbuda could leave the island almost entirely owned by banks.)

The underlining of certain states above indicates which consider themselves Bolivarian, although it's sad that the three in The Lima Group appear to have traded the domination of Spain for that of the US (and, in this case, its proxy, Canada). There has been immense pressure on Bolivia and everyone knows how long America has itched to get its hands on Cuba.

There is a rather long, but educational, article here about the history and trials of the Chavez years that includes a worrisome paragraph on one way that the US could control Venezuela:
  • Destabilizing and militarizing the Colombia-Venezuela border cannot be ruled out, with Plan Colombia and paramilitaries being the vehicles to do so.

Right now Colombia is taking the brunt of the sanctions that were placed on the Maduro government, making it impossible for him to continue to meet the needs of the people. Nobody in power in the so-called "free world" actually cares about the poor; they are pawns in the power game.

As early as last August, the Venezuelan poor were pouring into Colombia, hoping to use it as a pathway to places like Ecuador where they might find jobs.

It's the wealthy Venezuelans who want American intervention. Chavez prevented them from ruling the roost and becoming even richer at the expense of their fellow humans in the barrios. Maduro certainly couldn't do anything right as long as he could be accused of seeking assistance from entities that the US and Israel have characterized as wicked and won't tolerate.

Sympathy for the poor is vocalized all over the place, but the greater their plight the more the advantage for the US in its cynical game called Democracy.

Note that Colombia has joined The Lima Group and the fact that Canada is the only non-South American entity in that group suggests a Chrystia Freeland-Soros endeavour on behalf of the US to accompany the rumours of war with China and Russia.

All that an outright war ever takes is a focal point of some sort, a little spot on the map where "democracy" is deemed not to be served, and therefore menaces "democracy" everywhere.

Some say the US can't win against Russia and China. But top members of the military are making the case that it can. Apparently, all that's needed is yet another increase in military spending. Well, that's always the aim of the military/industrial complex that Eisenhower warned against, isn't it?

Already there are media rumblings of a direct Russian response:

GlobalNews:  Mysterious Nordwind Airlines plane returns to Russia from Venezuela
  • A Nordwind Airlines passenger plane returned to Russia on Thursday after it fueled intrigue in Venezuela after being spotted at an airport amid a wave of anti-government unrest.

A video on Al Jazeera has Pompeo saying, "Pick a side".

AlJazeera has also weighed in with a video on the Russian/Venezuelan theme:
What Russia stands to lose in Venezuela
  • As Washington intensifies its push to drive Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro from power, Russia's Vladimir Putin has vowed to support his Latin American "strategic partner" and warned of "catastrophic" consequences if the United States were to send military assistance to opposition leader Juan Guaido.

Chrystia Freeland, disguised as a Liberal, is the official Canadian rabble-rouser on behalf of the US (forget that Trump says he doesn't like her). Unlike forerunner Michael Ignatieff, who was too obvious as some sort of exotic, imported plant and consequently left us saddled with the Harper years and the glory of fighting for one's country, Freeland has taken over the job for which Ignatieff failed to achieve a mandate.

Ignatieff is just too obvious everywhere, it seems.

Iggy didn't have a Trudeau out in front to make Canadians think they were voting Liberal -- unlike Freeland, who was appointed as Foreign Minister (some say "Minister of Everything") to work behind the window dressing.

TheStar: How Chrystia Freeland became the (unofficial) deputy prime minister
  • Over the past few weeks, Freeland appears to be everywhere — especially everywhere Trudeau is not.

There's a Canadian Society for the New Humanist Paradigm (SNHP) located in B.C. one of whose representatives has characterized Freeland as a "a neo-con war-mongerer".

So what do you think will be the ultimate upshot of the Lima Group's meeting?

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11 Comments
Penny link
2/2/2019 02:50:53 pm

Scary thoughts is right
the Venezuelan plotting has not ended.
Canada has played an oversized role in that area for some time- My mind goes back to Haiti... where Canadian special ops escorted the legitimate leader away..

I had an article bookmarked about Freeland and the Lima Group meeting.... she'll be leading the charge on the next steps to take in Venezuela..

too much gold and too much oil

even if it's to temporarily take the oil off the market to increase prices- enable big oil to build the pipeline
whatever...

Turkey was warned about it's dealings with Venezuela

U.S. will act if Turkish trade violates Venezuela sanctions, official says''

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-venezuela-turkey/us-will-act-if-turkish-trade-violates-venezuela-sanctions-official-says-idUSKCN1PP2ET

"The United States is monitoring trade between its NATO ally Turkey and Venezuela and will take action if it judges any sanctions have been violated, a senior U.S. official said on Thursday.

“We have talked to the Turks like we have talked to an awful lot of governments around the world, sharing our perspective and asking them to join us in acknowledging the illegitimacy of the Maduro regime,” the official said.

“They have not responded positively to that conversation thus far.”
as they were wrt Iran
as they were wrt Russia

Perhaps another coup/assassination attempt is in the making there as well???

What makes this scarier is it's global.

Armenian/Canadian showing up in a geo strategic place..
as part of terror conspiracy??
Interesting, no?

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YayaCanada
2/2/2019 04:31:38 pm

Penny, thanks for added info. With all the talk about ensuring democracy, you'd think Turkey would be able to make its own decision on whether or not to deal with Venezuela. It's more like gang leader mentality!

I remember the rule of using VISA were that it wasn't useable for purchases from Iran. I found that rather shocking. Don't know if it's still like that; don't use VISA anymore.

As to the kid fighting ISIS - actually at 30 he's not exactly a kid - if he's had a "long-standing interest in radical movements" I doubt he'd care which side he was on so long as he got to be in on some action. If he doesn't know by now what ISIS is really all about, then he's a dupe and so are his parents. Makes me wonder how Global News got wind of it, unless his whole family suffers from the same delusions.

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Penny link
3/2/2019 07:43:03 am

re :"A longstanding interest in radical movements led Town to the Kurds. "

It was the weasel wording of 'long standing interest in radical movements' that got me thinking he was possibly affiliated with the Armenian radical movements- which clearly operate here in Canada and this would draw him quite naturally to ally with the US backed Kurdish proxies.

Which also makes me think he cares about what side he is on and might suggest the parental pride?



YayaCanada
3/2/2019 11:13:25 am

Thank you, Penny. I bow to your superior knowledge of the region. Please feel free to critique the following observations:

I have read that Kurds and Armenians do get along within Armenia despite their terrible history, and it also seems that "Kurdistan" is considered less a goal than a fact to be ratified, and I don't have a problem with that, nor do I see it as a bad thing that Kurds should have a homeland.

Are the Kurds of Kurdistan different from the Kurds of Armenia? Are they under the control of US/Israel and therefore a potential threat to all of the countries its borders touch?

I have also read that there is a long-standing "revolution" going on in Armenia, but I'm not sure on what authority the term "radical" has been applied to the protestors, nor how or why those radicals would operate in Canada. Have they escaped to here because they are wanted by the Armenian authorities?

Also, why wouldn't the Canadian lad join the revolution inside Armenia? What does fighting ISIS have to do with his Armenian connection?

I do realize that ISIS is Islamic, while Armenians and Kurds tend to be Christian. But ISIS is a chimera, just another US creation like Al-Qaeda to give a reason to occupy and "defend" stuff, all highly profitable to the weapons industry and American NGO's.

So I don't see what this Armenian lad is trying to accomplish on behalf of Armenians. Please do feel free to educate me.

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Penny link
4/2/2019 03:21:38 pm

Kurds are sunni muslims, overwhelmingly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Kurdistan

"The majority of Kurds are Sunni Muslims. The exact proportion is uncertain but McDowall gives the percentage as 'approximately 75%"

And that fact is often white washed so people won't make an association between the sunni muslim terror crowd and the kurds, but, there is a definite affiliation!

They aren't christians, and have killed many christians.

In fact that's what is so weird about their alliance with the Armenians who are christian..

It was Kurds, at the time of the Ottoman empire who killed many of the Armenians enmasse and that's how they came to be located in the south east area of Turkey- the Ottoman's let them clean house and keep all they stole

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Assyrianmassacres.jpg/220px-Assyrianmassacres.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRWU-Ny8ImetRPWsLVTWCMCKA94VpzGBryRU3bc7v_MbJG33ls9

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-kurds-proxy-trap-no-meme-kurdish.html

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/DD742A/slaughter-of-armenians-at-sason-in-august-1894-by-kurds-sason-a-province-DD742A.jpg

(image above) slaughter of armenians by kurds 1894

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_genocide

It used to be much easier to find this information in abundance, but, it's being scrubbed for political reasons

As for the kurds having a homeland of their own- which they've never had.. how much blood should be spilled for that to occur? How many lives lost? How many people displaced?
Look at what happened for the jews to have a homeland?
Look what continues to happen?
Will it result in peace?
Not likely. The creation of Israel hasn't resulted in any peace for anyone. It was politically motivated same as the creation of Kurdistan is (which is greater Israel for all intents and purposes)
For those reasons- and the reasons of what has occurred in Iraq and Syria already- and what is yet to come- the death and destruction it's near impossible for me to support that endeavour- and before this whole political project started there was almost no desire by the mass of kurdish persons for their own homeland..
(covered this way back at my blog)

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YayaCanada
4/2/2019 04:34:54 pm

Thanks, Penny. I know you have a lot on your plate, and you've gone to a lot of trouble to clarify. Sorry if I didn't make it clear it's the Kurds living in Armenia that are Christian, and that both sides have put the past behind them and now live in relative peace - , except that now there are protests against the government -- which don't seem much different from the French ones.

As for the Jewish homeland, I could have accepted a Jewish state at the '67 borders. I could also accept a Kurdistan on the lands already occupied, though of course it's not for me to say.

I do understand that the US/Israel could use them to advantage against Russia/Iran, but that happens with or without drawing an official border around them.

I do have trouble with all the acronyms. And the impression that all Kurds are bad people. And I still don't know what constitutes an Armenian "radical", why they would come to Canada and be allowed to live here if indeed they are terrorists (unless they were invited by whoever it is that wants Canadians to live in fear of terrorism), or why an Armenian kid from Canada would join up with the Kurds - for any reason at all.

I know, I'm enough to make you tear your hair out.

Penny link
4/2/2019 04:17:40 pm

And then there is the rarely covered massacres of Assyrians- along with the theft of their history and antiquities
by the Kurds (this is not every Kurd of course, but, enough of them that this has been an ongoing historical issue) This continues on to this very day- I've covered this at the blog in my coverage of what has taken place in Syria

http://www.assyriatv.org/2016/07/kurdish-massacres-assyrians-history/

https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/252777/turkeys-genocide-of-the-assyrians

"Just over a century ago this week, Turkish and Kurdish forces invaded land that the Assyrian people had inhabited since antiquity and began exterminating them. The slaughter that ensued lasted from 1915-1923, leaving 300,000 Assyrians dead and innumerable women abducted.

Joseph Yacoub’s Year of the Sword: the Assyrian Christian Genocide, published in French in 2014 and translated into English in 2016, is the most accessible historical account of the events that composed the genocide, as well as a comprehensive case for those events as genocide"

The jews often whitewash the attrocities of the Kurds while highlighting the Turkish role, but, it's not that clean or black and white.

But then the jews dislike the Assyrian's as well
and have long allied with the Kurds and I mean long, long along allied...
think of the enemy of my enemy is my friend type machinations..

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Penny link
4/2/2019 04:20:09 pm

one more- lots of history in that entire situation... that's for sure

http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/19082013

The American Mesopotamian Organization (AMO) is demanding an official apology from Kurdistan President Massoud Barzani for the murder of Assyrians by Kurds in the past. Thousands of Assyrian Christians were killed in the region in the last century.

“Just as the Kurdish try to get recognition for the Kurdish genocide, we ask them to accept their responsibility for the killings of the Assyrians in this region,” says David William Lazar, head of the AMO in Los Angeles.

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YayaCanada
4/2/2019 04:49:56 pm

This is all good stuff to have here for future reference. But I don't envy your job of sorting out that grizzly mess over there. And you've stuck at it for so many years! Which is why I respect your opinion where I wouldn't with so many others. Thanks again, Penny. Sincerely.

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Penny link
5/2/2019 08:15:39 am

Hi Yaya:

I'm not suggesting that all of the myriad of Kurds are bad.

I'm stating they are not all good.

And this is what we get via the media-
Egalitarian. Democratic. Women empowered.
Some kind of utopian society.

Not even close to be true.
There is so much division among the Kurds themselves, that no state could be formed unless it was totally authoritarian- which is what has occurred in Syria- the YPG rule with an iron fist.
The local police force the Asayish
They kidnap minors and force them to fight
They shutter schools
The kill dissidents

https://smartnews-agency.com/en/wires/345553/asayish-forces-terrorize-schoolchildren-in-village-in-deir-alzor

http://www.nrttv.com/En/News.aspx?id=9308&MapID=1


This has long gone on in Turkey as well where non compliant Kurds are killed by the PKK-
After this most recent elections a Kurdish man who worked for AKP party was kidnapped and found brutalized tied to a pole for all to see- A message delivered by the PKK to non cooperative Kurds- this is what will happen to you...

Not to speak of the situation in Iraq which boils down to factions vs factions.

The reality is nothing like the version we are presented with.

But then when is the reality anything like the presentation?

From 9/11
covert ops
coups
and more... I've learned most times things just aren't what they seem and political agendas trump reality

YayaCanada
5/2/2019 01:51:59 pm

"But then when is the reality anything like the presentation?"

Hmmmm .... I don't have an answer for that. ;-]

That's why we're bloggers, I guess. It's like every day we have to say, "Hey, wait a sec ..."

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