In this photo taken on Saturday, May 26, 2018, showing the actual Ukrainian Boeing 737-800 UR-PSR plane that crashed Wednesday Jan. 8, 2020, on the outskirts of Tehran, Iran, seen here as it waits to takeoff at Borispil international airport outside Kyiv, Ukraine. This Ukrainian airplane carrying 176 people crashed on Wednesday shortly after takeoff from Tehran's main airport, killing all onboard, Iranian state TV and officials in Ukraine said. (AP Photo/Oleg Belyakov).
Just the usual Boeing deficiency?
Or could it be that we are at covert war?
CBC: Cause of Flight PS752 crash unknown, plane goes down minutes after takeoff near Tehran - 63 Canadians among the dead
YYC Question: Does Trudeau consider Iran to be an "international partner"?
Answer: The word "continue" is kind of a giveaway that the answer is "no".
YYC Question: An unwanted thought, but nevertheless: Is the US administration cold-blooded enough? evil enough? depraved enough? to have had a hand in this to incriminate Iran?
Answer: Two Commenters to the CBC article suggest he may well be:
Reuters: Iran won't release the black box.
YYC Question: Could this that Iran is guilty, or that Iran fears that releasing the black box might deep six the truth entirely.
Answer: Everything after "or".
Seaching further: The Guardian answers my question:
Further indication that this may well have been a cold-blooded, indirect attack on Iran itself:
CBC: 27 Edmontonians believed dead in Iran plane crash
GlobalNews: At least 6 from Winnipeg believed to be on plane that crashed in Tehran, killing 63 Canadians
Get the picture?
Will the following serve as an alibi?
Bloomberg: June 2019 - Pilots Flagged Software Problems on Boeing Jets Besides Max
TheVerge: Everything you need to know about the Boeing 737 Max airplane crashes
Was it the usual Boeing problem or was it something else?
Here's a coincidence:
ABCNews: Jan 8/2020: President Donald Trump was preparing to address the nation at 11 a.m.
C-SPAN Jan 8/20: One day after Iran attacked U.S. bases in Iraq, President Trump addressed the nation:
Appearances can be deceiving, especially in view of the included threat. Trump is supposedly a born-again Christian; in fact, he claimed to be the greatest representative of the Christians they've had in a long time. But the Bible says: "Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ Anything more comes from the evil one".
Yet Trump is quite enigmatic. Whatever he's implying, there certainly have been evil times on earth and it's clear we are living in yet another one. Little wonder that End of Days people are more expectant of Jesus' imminent return than ever before:
Signs of End Times:
I still maintain that no Jesus is ever going to return to take the American so-called "Christians" to Heaven. Not as long as they can't recognize an anti-Christ when they see one in action:
USA.Church: Top 10 Reasons Why Christians Support President Trump
And not just Christians support Trump:
CNN: Top Facebook exec: Yes, we got Trump elected and it may happen again
And, talk about the hand of God -- the impeachment vote has been delayed due to the recent shocking events:
CTV: McConnell says he has votes to set rules for Trump's trial
Pelosi was "handed a note" on "Tuesday night", which means it was Wednesday morning in Tehran (Tehran time is 8 hours later than Eastern time) so the "crisis unfolding" may well have included information about the plane crash as well as the Iraq attack, though I've yet to see a news article that gives the exact time of the crash.
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War is the best antidote for a presidential impeachment. In other words, we are at war, folks. All the signs indicate there's plenty more to come.
8/1/2020 06:51:23 pm
Indeed, Yaya, there is plenty more to come. I think the Saker is a fairly good analyst and he says this is not over. It will be interesting if Sheikh Imran Hosein comes up with a comment soon.
19/1/2020 04:57:17 pm
Sheikh Imran Hosein has now put out a video about the assassination of Gen. Soleimani, the Iranian response and the shootdown of PS752. The last part of his video startled me but after I thought it over it did seem his suggestion to the Iranian government has merit. I don't know enough about Sheikh Imran Hosein to determine if he would hold any sway with them but he is a respected Islamic scholar.
19/1/2020 07:17:20 pm
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@ yayacanada 19/1/2020 07:17:20 pm
8/1/2020 07:10:47 pm
I'm with you all the way, M.R. re your comments.
8/1/2020 07:21:15 pm
Just came across this:
8/1/2020 07:57:19 pm
Yes, I've read both of those. Been spending way too much time at the computer since Friday but I did manage to sleep a bit last night. I don't get comfort in ignoring these situations, only more anxiety, so I read and read and strangely it helps a bit to keep my mind engaged that way.
8/1/2020 09:40:43 pm
I can identify with what you're feeling, M.R. It's the reason I blog. Even if very few people read what I have to say, at least I'm getting it out of my system. With my old blog I had guest writers. If ever you want to try that, let me know.
9/1/2020 07:45:12 pm
Who can keep up with the spins and twists regarding all aspects of this latest Middle East crisis? Now the Iranian officials are saying they welcome "all parties involved" to investigate the crash of Flight PS-752 (wow, there's another 52 popping up) ... including Boeing.
9/1/2020 09:21:51 pm
I agree, M.R. Common sense alone, considering the history, tells one that the US is involved in this -- by proxy at least. In my opinion, Trudeau has no business opening his mouth one way or the other before a proper, impartial investigation is carried out.
9/1/2020 09:44:38 pm
Thanks for the press-tv link, M.R., it reiterates that the pilot attempted to return to base because the plane had caught fire. He would hardly have been able to turn the plane around if it had been hit by a missile, and there were eye witnesses who saw him to do it.
10/1/2020 09:29:33 am
That's exactly the right word, Penny - "crazeeee". You may well be right about it being just another faulty version of the 737. But the timing, coming right after the Iraq fracas is quite a coincidence.
I was thinking about, and said to hubby just yesterday, about the resemblance to the MH-17 incident.
10/1/2020 10:00:37 am
From the Associated Press via this link:
10/1/2020 05:04:02 pm
I got up the nerve to post a comment at The Saker today re: pyschological warfare, propaganda and PS752. (That's a first for me.) The Saker attracts a bunch of quite knowlegable commenters and since, in military matters particularly, I'm very much a neophyte it was only my grave concern about how this tragic crash could be exploited that made me toss my 2 cents into the discussion pot. Some of the comments I read after posting my own indicate that there are several Saker followers who are concerned about this aspect. Thank you Yaya and Penny for having this on your radar too.
10/1/2020 05:31:16 pm
May you have many more such firsts in your life, M.R. You are a good analyst and an intelligent writer and I, for one, am always interested in what you have to say.
10/1/2020 05:46:45 pm
QUOTE: "The plane had six nuclear scientists on board who flew to Iran to help them with their nuclear program. Someone shot that plane down while they were being evacuated before a war broke out, and I seriously doubt it was Iran."
10/1/2020 07:43:57 pm
Here's some old stuff that's oddly similar to the current story being circulated about 6 nuclear scientists being onboard the downed plane in Iran:
10/1/2020 07:47:58 pm
Sorry for omission. Here's Jim Stone's URL:
10/1/2020 09:59:10 pm
This is as far as I got looking into this claim.
10/1/2020 10:53:06 pm
Wow, you're good, M.R. Hope to hear more from you, but also hope you'll get a good night's sleep.
11/1/2020 01:48:46 am
This is not the result I would have wished for Iran but Press TV has announced that PS752 was shot down down in error because it flew too close to an IRGC base and it was mistaken as an enemy plane. It's good they aren't trying to dodge responsibility for this but it's sad for them and even more so for those who died. The airport should have been shut down until the period of high alert was over.
11/1/2020 08:18:02 am
A "sad day" indeed. Thanks for being so vigilent, M.R. Hope you got some sleep last night.
11/1/2020 03:04:21 pm
Here's some further information from PressTV ...
11/1/2020 03:30:34 pm
A very telling statement in the Slate article considering how long it took the US to finally compensate Iran for the 1988 downing of Iran Air Flight 655:
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