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Everything's About the Saudis These Days

14/10/2018

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Everything's About the Saudis These Days

Is there something else we're not supposed to be noticing?

I recently wrote about "Weasel words" and now I have to do it again!  When you see them, you need to know you're being conned.

CBC: A Quebecer spoke out against the Saudis - then learned he had spyware on his iPhone
  • It started with a tub of protein powder. Omar Abdulaziz ordered one on Amazon in late June and was waiting for it to arrive at his Sherbrooke, Que., apartment. Abdulaziz didn't think much of it when he received a text message later that day from DHL with a link to a tracking number, stating his package was on its way.
  • Abdulaziz believes he clicked the link, which would have let spyware burrow its way into his iPhone. There, it could copy his contacts and messages and even eavesdrop on calls. Its operators would have total control.
  • In a new report, researchers at the University of Toronto's Citizen Lab say that it was very likely conducted by the government of Abdulaziz's home country, Saudi Arabia.

About the only things said in definite terms were these:
  • Abdulaziz said his two brothers, along with several of his friends, were recently imprisoned by the Saudi Arabian government. He has been unable to speak to his mother in months.
  • "Because I'm [in Canada], I know that I'm protected. I'm not scared. So I would just keep doing what I'm doing."
  • [Researchers] cannot say with certainty it was Saudi Arabia that installed the spyware, short of being in the room with the operators when they launched their attack. Nor can they draw a definitive link between Abdulaziz's surveillance and the detention of his friends and family back home.
But:
  • [The researchers] have a high degree of confidence that the Saudi Arabian government or its security agencies were likely behind the attack.

The report goes on to say that "Public Safety has yet to respond to a request for comment", but it doesn't actually say that Public Safety was ever contacted. We're supposed to assume that.

The Director of the research unit, Ron Diebert, is an absolute expert at weasel words:
  • "This is likely going to amplify the dispute between Canada and Saudi Arabia, no doubt."

You can read the detailed report of the research here.

Okay, note that all that took place back in June, yet nothing was said about it until October 1. And then it isn't until October 14 that we are told that Omar had been in phone contact with the missing-and-presumed-dead "journalist" Jamal Khashoggi.
  • "Khashoggi promised me to sponsor the project and I guess they could listen in to those conversations," Abdulaziz said. "I told the Canadian authorities that it's a serious thing."

What if Khashoggi was a Saudi plant and not just an innocent dissident (like Omar) writing for the fake news experts at the Washington Post. (Read all about him at PennyforyourThoughts)

What would that make Omar Abdulaziz?

What this latest report does is boost the story that Khashoggi was abducted by the Saudis. And it certainly tweaks Omar's own importance. (Oh, gawd, is he going to become another Mubin Sheikh?)

CBC: Quebec dissident believes Saudis used spyware to eavesdrop on his chats with Jamal Khashoggi

Well, the RCMP are investigating, so that's okay then. They can't find over a thousand missing Native women, but maybe there are some things they're good at. Especially if they themselves are the ones who infected Omar's phone. It's their job to be watching out for potential terrorists, isn't it?

Keep in mind that an Israeli firm was said by the researchers to be the innovator of the spyware they say may have infected Omar's phone. It's said to be very expensive, and therefore only accessible to the well-funded, but the RCMP and CSIS have proved in the past to have lots of money to throw at infiltrators.

Omar Abdulaziz is terribly brave about the problems he says he's caused his mother and brothers, as well as what he believes is Khashoggi's predicament, all due to Omar's own activities.

As he says, they wouldn't harm him on Canadian soil and they couldn't get Khashoggi until he went to Turkey. It's like the old saying, "I'm allright Jack; pull in the ladder"


It's not easy to keep all of the current international intrigues straight, but the biggest mystery seems to me to be why Omar ordered all that protein powder.  And we haven't been told if he ever received it. That's going to keep me awake tonight, for sure.

I've read that protein powder is not good for you, but I never knew until now just how dangerous it could be.
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Penny link
15/10/2018 08:07:30 am

Why were Jamal Khashoggi and him in contact with one another?

Wonder what exactly is "Citizen Lab"

Feels like an NGO employing hacker techniques..

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YayaCanada.ca
15/10/2018 10:32:43 am

Hi Penny: Omar says that Khashoggi was going to "sponsor" his university campaign against lack of freedom in Saudi Arabia. Interesting that the media didn't question how.

The Director of Citizen Lab personally seems to be a pet of the Ford Foundation, which in my opinion makes it a political organization.
"Several ideas were percolating in Deibert’s mind when the Ford Foundation, an American non-profit organization, offered him a $250,000 grant to conduct research around ICTs and international security. The money, coupled with Deibert’s determination, led to the Citizen Lab’s birth in 2001."
http://magazine.utoronto.ca/autumn-2009/profile-of-u-of-t-citizen-lab-founder-professor-ron-deibert/

Deibert was heavily involved in cracking internet censorship in Iran "pushing in" social media sites and everything else "except, of course, pornographic websites" (what a Puritan statement that is).
https://magazine.utoronto.ca/cover-story/u-of-t-citizen-lab-internet-censorship/

He's made out to be a complete iconoclast, but the language he uses comes straight out of Sunday school. Personally, when I hear trite words like this: “It’s about trying to help others and make the world a better place” my BS detector kicks in.

Especially when the man has won so many awards (The Order of Ontario? and the Queen's Diamond Jubilee Medal) and receives such glowing press!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Deibert

I don't see him "pushing in" the bloggers that Google is trying to push out.

Citizen Lab itself has been glowingly reported on by the Washington Post and the New York Times, so there's another reason to suspect the stated objectives.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Lab

According to his Wikipedia profile, Deibert is also interested in Astropolitics, which is actually about conducting wars from outer space, but his participation is not described in any detail. (Top Secret?)

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Penny link
16/10/2018 07:23:39 pm

thanks Yaya
I've linked to ya- in a big new post
which ends with a song

regarding citizen lab- he's not in business to save the likes of us!

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Penny link
17/10/2018 03:55:51 pm

yaya:
someone left me a comment
what are the odds that we had 15 saudi hijackers (outof19)
and allegedly it was a 15 man hit team that took out Khashoggi.
seems a bit to coincidental?
thoughts

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YayaCanada
17/10/2018 10:14:49 pm

First of all, thanks for the link, Penny.

Yeah, I saw that comment, but didn't know what to say about it. The whole thing is so weird, especially the part about the Saudis supposedly falling out of favour with the US. Sometimes I think these are scenarios created by Hollywood directors purely for the consumption of the general population. I still cling to the notion that the Saudis, Israel and the US have been so tight because each of them has the truth about 9/11 on the others. The threat of exposure exists for all of them if they misstep too far.

Hmmm ... I suppose if they can manage to pin it entirely on the Saudis and make it seem credible, they can steal all their oil and be done with them. What a nutty bunch of crooks there are at the top of the heap - and that includes our own PM and his pals who started the whole bad Saudi thing with their so-called feminism, but still tried to sell them war machines to use in Yemen. And still no proof that MBS is alive!!! It's bizarro world out there!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bizarro%20world

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Penny link
18/10/2018 08:58:13 am

Don't look at it so much as Saudi Arabia falling out of favour- just think of it as a new/improved Saudi Arabia being more favoured.
Ya know new and improved for Usreal?

I suspect this is part of the Yinon plan- Israel wants the region to have less Arabs (and christians) which is why we see the beginnings of a great big Pro-Israel Kurdistan (Israel 2.0) smack dab in the middle of the region connecting the 4 water ways (everything controlled by the Kurdish proxies of US/UK/Israel)

The placement of the new terror state is perfect
- because it leaves so many others divided and weak and dependent on the Kurdish state that will control massive water and oil resources and I mean massive
- It's a big block on the silk road being developed by China, Russia and others to trade across that entire region
- It gives Israel a preferred ally and lots of power in the region
In a nutshell!

YayaCanada
18/10/2018 10:18:48 am

Yeah, I keep forgetting about Israel, I guess because the US is way more out in front. I saw it as another US military base hemming in Russia, but it's just as much a boon for Israel, if not more so. I can't stand to look at photos of Netanyahu anymore; he's just a thoroughly corrupt individual. I still think the glue is the truth about 9/11. If any of the three countries revealed it, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. They have to get along come hell or high unowut. Even if GWB (or Cheney) confesses on his deathbed, the public will not hear of it.

(By the way, it's 1C here and sunny.)

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